<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>zu 9/10/12:</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">vzlogger kann die Frequenzen bis paar kHz auf rpi3 locker loggen. <br><br>Gruß<div>Matthias</div><div><br></div><div>Sent from a mobile device. </div></div><div><br>Am 16.07.2017 um 17:06 schrieb Christian Wulff <<a href="mailto:christianwulff@gmx.de">christianwulff@gmx.de</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Moin,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">denn antworte/verschiebe ich mal in die Users Liste.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wo und wie ist denn definiert was in die Users und Dev Liste gehört?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Vielleicht muss ich nochmal von vorne anfangen und noch genauer definieren was genau meine Fragen sind:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ich habe 3 Lüfter mit vermutlich unter 2000rpm, von denen ich die Drehzahl messen und im Volkszähler loggen möchte. Dargestellt werden sollen die Drehzahlen im Frontend.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Geht das?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wie geht das?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hat das schon mal jemand gemacht?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wie genau hat derjenige das gemacht?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wie sind die Erfahrungen damit? (z.B. Zuverlässigkeit, Genauigkeit, Was würde derjenige beim nächsten Mal anders machen?)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">7.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wie misst man das am besten?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">8.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mit welchen Sensoren?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">9.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wo schließt man das am Raspberry Pi 3 an?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">10.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ist es besser das an einen ESP8266 anzuschließen? So könnte man den Prozessor vom Raspi entlasten.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">11.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Was brauch ich dafür an Hardware?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">12.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Was brauch ich dafür an Software?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">13.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Welche Datenformate sind dafür sinnvoll?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">14.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">…..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Lieben Gruß,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Andreas Goetz [<a href="mailto:cpuidle@gmail.com">mailto:cpuidle@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 16. Juli 2017 14:42<br><b>An:</b> <a href="http://volkszaehler.org">volkszaehler.org</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [vz-dev] Wie kann man Drehzahlen messen?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Es wird gespeichert was Du willst. Viel wichtiger: wie willst Du denn messen? Was kommt aus Deinem Meßaufbau raus?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Viele Grüße, Andreas<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">PS.: Die Diskussion gehört nicht auf die Entwicklerliste…<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 16. Jul 2017, at 12:18, Christian Wulff <<a href="mailto:christianwulff@gmx.de">christianwulff@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hallo Frank,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Die Drehzahl weiss ich nicht genau, nehmen wir mal 2000rpm an, wahrscheinlich weniger. Sicher keine >5000rpm.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bei Temperaturen werden Temperaturwerte (z.B. 19,357) im VZ gespeichert.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Beim Stromzähler, werden die Stromzählerstände (z.B. 8354,7) im VZ gespeichert.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bei der Wasseruhr werden die S0 Impulse (z.B. 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 ) im VZ gespeichert.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Soweit klar.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Was wird denn bei Frequenz / Drehzahl gespeichert bzw. was erwartet der VZ da?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hochfrequente Impulse wohl eher nicht?! (z.B. 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 )</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Impulse pro Zeiteinheit? (z.B. 10357/5min)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Frequenzwerte (z.B. 33,235 Hz)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Drehzahl (z.B. 1987rpm)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Lieben Gruß,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Von:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Frank Richter [<a href="mailto:frank.richter83@gmail.com">mailto:frank.richter83@gmail.com</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Gesendet:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Samstag, 15. Juli 2017 20:49<br><b>An:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://volkszaehler.org">volkszaehler.org</a><br><b>Betreff:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [vz-dev] Wie kann man Drehzahlen messen?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Christian,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">von welchen Drehzahlen reden wir da?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">So Realtime-Sachen gehen vielleicht besser mit einem kleinen Microcontroller, z.B. Arduino. Will allerdings auch nicht ausschließen dass es direkt mit dem Pi geht, da hab ich aber keine Erfahrung.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Grüße<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Frank<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Am 15.07.2017 18:34 schrieb "Christian Wulff" <<a href="mailto:christianwulff@gmx.de"><span style="color:purple">christianwulff@gmx.de</span></a>>:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hallo Frank,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">die erste Frage war, ob das überhaupt geht. Die scheint beantwortet zu sein. Ja, geht. Sehr gut<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Und nun natürlich die nächste Frage: Wie? Also was braucht man da als Hardware? Damit meine ich noch nicht den Sensor, das könnte ne Lichtschranke, Magnet, Hallsensor oder, oder, oder sein.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Braucht man noch irgendeinen Frequenzzähler, den der Raspi dann ausließt oder zählt der Raspi auf einem GPIO selber, oder gibt’s nen 1-Wire counter?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wenn der Raspi selber zählt vermute ich, dass die CPU stark belastet wird?!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hat sowas schon mal jemand gemacht?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Lieben Gruß,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Von:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Frank Richter [mailto:<a href="mailto:frank.richter83@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">frank.richter83@gmail.com</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Gesendet:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Freitag, 14. Juli 2017 23:25<br><b>An:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://volkszaehler.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">volkszaehler.org</span></a><br><b>Betreff:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [vz-dev] Wie kann man Drehzahlen messen?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hallo Christian,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">geht es dir um Hardware (passende Sensorik) oder Software (Loggen/Darstellen)? Volkszähler kennt Drehzahl und Frequenz als Kanaltyp, das sollte also kein Problem sein.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Grüße<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Frank<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Am 14.07.2017 22:09 schrieb "Christian Wulff" <<a href="mailto:christianwulff@gmx.de" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">christianwulff@gmx.de</span></a>>:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Moin,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">gibt es eine Möglichkeit Drehzahlen mit dem Volkszähler zu messen?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Mir schwebt da vor drei Lüfterdrehzahlen unserer Luft-Wasser Wärmepumpe zu loggen.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Danke und lieben Gruß,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></body></html>